hello! New T150v owner

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    • #12491
      toby sears
      Participant

        Hi all. New member, new bike. Based near Southampton. I think the bike may be known to members, it seems it was a trade in so previous owners might recognise it. I’m very pleased with it but it needs a bit of fettling. the odd thing is the date letters suggest it was built in August 75 when the T160 should have been rolling out the factory. Were they using up T150 parts alongside the T160?

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      • #12494
        Anonymous

          Welcome to the club Toby, hope you enjoy the new ride.

          George

        • #12495
          Don Gray
          Participant

            Hi Toby. Welcome to the club! Yep…. T150V’s were being made & trundled down the line at the same time as T160’s. It’s a job to tell from your really tiny low res pic, but if its like mine – one of the last – it’ll have the well know crossover parts like T160 kickstart, gearbox casing with sloping filler, primary case with un machined boss to take left foot gearchange amongst others… Enjoy your bike! cheers..

          • #12496
            toby sears
            Participant

              Thanks both. Sorry about the picture! It’s KLL766N. I wasn’t worried about any jiggerypokery as the high engine number tied in with what I had read about the numbering but the date bemused me as I couldn’t find reference to them continuing, only that every August they started production of the next new model!

              I will try a better picture, I’ve had issues with high res not posting on forums. I will check out the sloping filler etc. Thanks for the info. Currently I have a disc brake that won’t even lock up at 30mph despite a new disc and pads plus copious bleeding. The disc and pads are unknown quality so I’m fitting an EBC floating disc and HH pads to try and resolve it as well as resigning to taking it to the local bike mechanic to get any airlocks out. Thinking of A Lockheed racing caliper too.

            • #12497
              Don Gray
              Participant

                Toby, it’s worth persevering with the standard set up to be honest. Try just replacing the pads with EBC HH which is easy quick & cheap to do. They made an improvement on mine once bedded in. But, bear in mind this is an olde bike & roadtests back in the day often remarked that brakes could be a bit err… diffident. I don’t think i’ve ever locked up the front wheel – deliberately – under heavy braking! Give it time to bed in & ride accordingly & things might get better with time…..

              • #12498
                Don Gray
                Participant

                  Oh yes…. hoses…. Get Goodrich braided. They can help too….

                   

                • #12501
                  toby sears
                  Participant

                    Thanks. I’ve ordered a one piece braided hose just in case and my mate can get me the ebc disc and pads at cost. I did discover today under the chrome cover was not the iron lockheed or cheap girling I expected but the Grimeca caliper which it appears is an equal to the lockheed racing one. (hopefully!)

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                    • #12531
                      Gary Whiting
                      Participant

                        Lovely looking bike

                        I never used to like the bread bin tank but it’s grown on me to the point where I now really like it and wouldn’t mind one myself

                    • #12512
                      Angus McLeod
                      Moderator

                        If the engine numbers are JK it would have been made August 74 . The second letter denote the model year. The 75 model year started in August 74.

                        • #12513
                          toby sears
                          Participant

                            Sorry, yes, I meant 75 model year. My understanding was after the annual shutdown all new parts were put in place for next model which would have been T160 in August 74. Mine has the T160 details suggested above so I guess they were offering both initially, possibly to use parts or possibly to sell slightly cheaper than T160?

                        • #12528
                          John Rimmer
                          Participant

                            My T150V is KK numbers, and same T160 parts as yours. Yes the brakes are hopeless compared to modern bikes. I fitted the lightened disc, ebc pads and Goodridge braided hose and this is a big improvement once it beds in. Reading the road and in particular other vehicles is essential and part of the fun.

                          • #12529
                            James Herbert
                            Participant

                              According to some deluded enthusiasts there were numerous 100mph bikes before 1960, none having anything more than an 8″ drum with fixed pivot flat cam spindle between leading and trailing shoes.   To take up wear one cut shims of steel to pack out the slippers.   I used to test my grip on bathroom scales and am no blacksmith but even he could never slow a bike as well as the Morris 8 in front.    My friend, used to 7″ drum, fell off a lent Ducati at first junction by locking the wheel….    I tried a new T160 about 1976, and thought it magnificent.   It is also lighter than twin 12″ discs.   But on broken tarmac fatter fork stanchions feel safer.    If you ever try TLS drums you will like the single disc because it works in reverse too, useful on steep hill starts.

                               

                              I will point out that as with the sensibly supported single plate dry clutch, our brakes came from Automotive Products, not the abysmal bike makers.   Note too that Lockheed had given us screwdriver adjustment of drum brake, that had been beyond our posh bikes, though Ariel had provided fulcrum adjustment by spanner circa 1950.    The Trident was a very good effort by the serfs of a dud industry.

                            • #12534
                              Richie Davies
                              Keymaster

                                My mate owned that, he traded it in for a Slippery Sam Replica. He didn’t own it for long but says he thinks it has an 860 kit on there. It is a nice bike.

                                Rich

                                • #12544
                                  toby sears
                                  Participant

                                    Hi Richie, thanks for replying. Interestingly I was told it was used as a regular commute to work bike but then saw the V5 slips in the folder of documents which showed a rapid change of ownership this year which was slightly worrying! It turned out to be ok, I posted on FB regarding the bike (as Robert Hoskins; don’t ask!!!) as I was curious about previous owners, would love to know any more history.

                                    What made him think it was 860? I did see receipts for a lot of bits over the years in the folder but not any barrels or pistons. He must have been brave, when I first took it out and approached the end of the road I had a panic as I pulled the brake as hard as possible but carried straight on towards a T junction. I am so used to front wheel braking on my 05 bonnie I completely forgot about the pedal in the panic! Oddly enough I used to have an A65 with oval front drum so rode it mainly on the rear brake!

                                • #12546
                                  nigel wheatley
                                  Participant

                                    Toby, you shouldn’t be having that sort of panic stop problems with the front disc. i suggest you check that the caliper & master cylinder pistons are working freely etc and give it a good looking over. Renewing the disc and pads may not be the  solution check out the caliper and the master cylinder first.

                                    I came to a T160 after a few years enforced break from bikes but my last previous were double disked Honda/Kawasaki of the 80s and i didn’t find the standard Lockheed set up that bad

                                    True you can improve things, once the caliper and m/cylinder work, get a machine shop to grind off the chrome on the disc and fit HH EBC pads

                                    There were plenty of late T150s left unsold in showrooms once the T160 came on song so its not unusual to find N and P reg bikes. Some would say that these were the best Tridents (even more so now that you can upgrade to some of the T160 embellishments)

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