April 15, 2017 at 9:01 pm #5593
Having massive problems getting my T160 started. Bike back fires after several attempts on the starter button, back through the nearside exhaust. I’d like to think I have tried everything. There are PVL coils fitted along with a Mk3 Boyer. Does any one have coil testing values they could pass on to me so I can do a thorough check as possible on the primary and secondary aspects. One reading is giving 2.2 ohms on each coil. However what I have done in the list below you might say that the coils are fine if ‘this and that’ is happening. The only thing I can see clearly is that I’m only getting 9.7 volts at the Boyer Ignition box when I crank the engine over. Is it right that the BB ignition box needs 12v to make it work? However it won’t start on the kick start, after several kicks I get a pop back through the carb. Could it be the Zenor Diode or rectifier??? How can I check these? I was hoping not to right the list below but it will give you an idea of where I am with it all.
Brand new battery (Yuasa YTX14L-B5) 200 CCA. Supplier has checked and all ok. 12.4 volts at battery and into coil 1
Carbs stripped x2, (pilot grub screws removed, carb cleaner, air line, all orifices clean)
Float heights checked. Stay up floats added. Viton tipped needles several years ago.
Fuel tank flushed
Plenty of fuel when carbs tickled
New ethanol resistant fuel line
Earth wires on frame, engine and in headlight removed cleaned and replaced
Kill switch checked, cleaned. 12+volts evident
New K&N air filter
Spark’s at plugs cranking engine over on the starter
Black/white, yellow/black wires touched on Boyer which sparks the plugs. This apparently indicates that the Boyer is probably OK (their words)
Timing at stator plate spot on.
Its come to a point now where I can’t see the wood for the tree’s so any suggestions would be most grateful.
April 15, 2017 at 9:16 pm #5594
Flat battery mk 3 boyer needs more umph should be near 14v and use the kick start first
April 15, 2017 at 9:21 pm #5595
I have a 19amp battery fitted and that needed to be kicked over first after that its fine, also alternator needs to be checked or a new high power unit fitted
April 15, 2017 at 9:23 pm #5596
Oh and fit a new reg/rec modern
April 16, 2017 at 6:20 am #5597
I’m not sure about the mk3 Boyer but certainly some versions will not work on under 10volts. You can eliminate that by either using another battery in parallel with jump leads to increase the cranking capacity or by connecting the Boyer only to a separate battery/supply so it’s supply voltage is not affected when you crank the engine. What starting procedure are you using? It’s very easy to get into a buggers muddle when an engine won’t start on the first 2 or 3 goes I.e. It floods, battery voltage drops etc making it less likely to go! You did say in a previous post that it did run so I do still suspect battery voltage is your problem?
April 16, 2017 at 2:36 pm #5599
Dave thanks for replying again. Yes it did start. I did squirt some fuel into each cylinder though the night before so it was that residue the next morning that fired it up for a while. To me this all points to fuel starvation if it starts like that but I feel I have done all I can in that area to eliminate it. The only thing I haven’t taken out of the carbs is the welch washer in the main body. I’ve had grub screws put into the pilot jet area, I took these out and everything was clean. The pilot holes were all clean. Checked all the jets all clean. Used carb cleaner and comp air, Flushed the tank out, Carbs flood nicely on the ‘tickle’. The only other thing that points to fuel starvation is when I take the plugs out (again) they are dry and not soaked in fuel as you would expect after flooding the carbs 3-4 times. As I said above I am only getting 9.7 volts going into the BB ignition unit from the kill switch wire yellow/white to white on BB.
Just tried it on the kickstart again, nothing. A small pop back through one of the carbs. I have a brand new Mk4 BB system on my mk1 R3 Im going to pull it off and fit it on the T160 and see what happens. That way I can eliminate plenty of potential problems
April 16, 2017 at 9:27 am #5598
Try a set of jump leads of your car? 👍
April 16, 2017 at 3:25 pm #5600
Flat battery, try supplying the coil off the batter direct
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